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siimshady · Jun 11, 2009, 08:56 PM // 20:56

its offical rap vs rock jjust say what u like.in my opinion rap is better but thats me how about you

Ghost Omel · Jun 11, 2009, 08:58 PM // 20:58

Can i say neither?

I like Techno.. without words.. even thatg gets annoying.. i like Music without any words and lyrics..lets the rest toy ou to deside =)

Kumu Honua · Jun 11, 2009, 09:01 PM // 21:01

Rap has no redeeming musical qualities at all. Every single person I have ever met that likes rap is a person that I would never want to associate with just on base principles of basic things. Like wearing their clothes like a human. Bathing. Having a job...

Maybe that's just the stereotype, but man, if you don't want the stereotype, stop living it.

Ghost Omel · Jun 11, 2009, 09:06 PM // 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumu Honua

Rap has no redeeming musical qualities at all. Every single person I have ever met that likes rap is a person that I would never want to associate with just on base principles of basic things. Like wearing their clothes like a human. Bathing. Having a job...

Maybe that's just the stereotype, but man, if you don't want the stereotype, stop living it.

To direct for my taste...but gets to the point.. same thoughts but more layed back .. i wouldnt trust any 1 like that but it doesnt mean il brush them off like dirt..

that was way to mean on your part but i understand ya

kostolomac · Jun 11, 2009, 09:09 PM // 21:09

Rock by a long mile.
The rap music of today is just people talking about how rich they are how much they get laid with some beats in the background. It's utter garbage. Dunno, maybe I could enjoy it if I'm completely wasted or something.

KoKoS · Jun 11, 2009, 09:12 PM // 21:12

^what kolostomac said..

Rock and Metal by faaaar \m/
..also like trance and house ;P

but i h8 rap and pop..!

Hanging Man · Jun 11, 2009, 09:13 PM // 21:13

Rock, deff.
Rap is more about image than real skill. I'll give credit to the few good rappers out there, but I consider them to lyricists. Back to point, rap is so generic. In example, Soulja Boy's new song, " Swag on" or something is so generic in its rhyming abilities.

Stuff like that makes me hate bad artists.

Tyla · Jun 11, 2009, 09:35 PM // 21:35

Anything which involves instruments - it's a demonstration of skill in it. Teamwork also is a skill that can be included. I'm only involving bands that play live though, but I should still take into account the sound technicians. With Rap and that... well there's one person talking over a basic, continuous beat half the time, and modern rap makes me want to tear a chav's arm off and beat them to death with it every time I hear some "n***a, shoot dem hoez, i'm friken tenmen" coming off someone's phone with earthreateningly bad sound quality. Old stuff, I kinda like, but this new stuff is terrible to me.

Either way... comparing rap and rock is like comparing apples to oranges, they're two completely different styles of music.

Ghost Omel · Jun 11, 2009, 09:40 PM // 21:40

Thast why i say he should alter it and put in a 3rd choice of Techno................which is like a Melon compred to rap and rock =)

Stolen Souls · Jun 11, 2009, 09:43 PM // 21:43

Rock. I have absolutely no use for Rap whatsoever.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Jun 11, 2009, 10:52 PM // 22:52

Rap Music is an oxymoron.....

Etta · Jun 11, 2009, 11:23 PM // 23:23

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Originally Posted by Tyla

comparing rap and rock is like comparing apples to oranges, they're two completely different styles of music.

Aww, my boy is all grown up. Well said, if everyone like the same crap the world would be one helluva boring place.

I pwnd U · Jun 11, 2009, 11:23 PM // 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyla

Anything which involves instruments

Well that kills rap. Synthesizers are not real instruments.

Rock by far. Rap is for people who can't actually keep a beat and can rhyme just barely and only by using vulgar words.

Black Metal · Jun 12, 2009, 12:21 AM // 00:21

Rock........death metal, black metal, and improvisational rock at that (including jazz)

Rap is painful, how childish the loops are, how it's all about style and no substance, how self-aggrandizing and self-flagellating it is, how ego-feeding and empty it is, how simplistic and lowest-common-denominator it is, .....running out of breath.

On my soapbox now, and I hate to generalize, but this is how I honestly feel: rap is for immature people who don't have much intelligence (the next person I meet who likes both Jay-Z and Miles Davis will be the first), don't understand music, and simply want to identify with an image (and fit in) rather than be critical and explore music

Opeth, Miles Davis, Pink Floyd>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any rap

that said, there is some urban music, not sure if it's rap in the most popular sense, that I appreciate, such as Beastie Boys, Digital Underground, and Jurassic 5

Arkantos · Jun 12, 2009, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Quote:

On my soapbox now, and I hate to generalize, but this is how I honestly feel: rap is for immature people who don't have much intelligence (the next person I meet who likes both Jay-Z and Miles Davis will be the first), don't understand music, and simply want to identify with an image (and fit in) rather than be critical and explore music

I like rap, I'm not immature (if anything I'd say I'm more mature than the average 17 year old) and I'm far from being unintelligent. I understand music, and I understand that rap is hardly considered music. I don't listen to it to 'fit in', I've been listening to rap since I was 7, years before any of my friends did. I like rap more than I like rock, but that doesn't mean I'm some sort of immature idiot.

This is why generalizing is bad, and why people shouldn't do it.

Avarre · Jun 12, 2009, 12:33 AM // 00:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

I've been listening to rap since I was 7, years before any of my friends did.

If you had told me this I wouldn't have been so hard on you for not being able to play Guild Wars.

I mean, who can blame you, given that background?

FengShuiDove · Jun 12, 2009, 12:34 AM // 00:34

Rock.

I hate the rap culture, the lack of innovative music and lyrics, the general abuse of the same exact sound in everything, and the culture again.

Rock has a number of subcultures that I wouldn't associate with either, but the sheer ignorance apparent in 99% of all rap music is just brutally pathetic. Plus, rock has a larger variety of sub-genres in which can be found any number of unique musical complexities.

Rap has no redeeming qualities, rock has several. Also, check this out:

http://www.mrscienceshow.com/2009/03...gence-and.html

Notice that "rap's" highest categorization is "rap" itself, with "hip-hop" (a mild distinction in many cases) far lower. Rock's lowest category is "Rock" itself, which still beats rap's highest category. If you consider "Alternative" to be under rock, sure, but it still doesn't drop below rap's lowest category.

Rock: the smart choice.

MisterB · Jun 12, 2009, 01:15 AM // 01:15

"Rap" is often misspelled. It's a four letter word, with a "C" at the beginning.
My opinion.

**Marty Silverblade** · Jun 12, 2009, 01:27 AM // 01:27

Rock is music.

Rap is noise.

Don't need to say any more than that, really.

Black Metal · Jun 12, 2009, 01:28 AM // 01:28

Arkantos, I appreciate what you say. I sort of cringe when generalizing, as on these boards, people from all walks of life come, and also post here. But around where I live, California, it's quite a bit easier to generalize, in this case, the type of people who like rap. Go to LA, Oakland, Stockton, any medium to large city, and 99% of rap lovers are clones.

Digressing, the relative merits of rap and rock, the artistic expression and inventiveness of the two, is a very simple comparison. Shall we compare the artistry, writing, and lyrics of say, John Lennon vs Fifty Cent? Of Jonny Cash vs Two Live Crew? Roy Orbison vs Lil Wayne? Bob Dylan vs any rap act on MTV or any ghetto radio station polluting the Californian air waves? There are no redeeming qualities of the rap culture, the mysogynistic ho-spouting, senseless violence-glorifying, don't snitch, disgustingly excessively materialistic fodder that is the limit of rap lyrics.